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sigridhr ([personal profile] sigridhr) wrote2013-01-17 08:28 pm
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Epic Tolkien Bookclub: Week Two

 Epic Tolkien Bookclub: Week Two (The Hobbit)
Chapter III: A Short Rest
Chapter IV: Over Hill and Under Hill

Rules

I very much doubt we'll require much in the way of formal rules, but just for the sake of formality and clarity:
  • Discussion is welcome and encouraged, as is disagreement. Name-calling and personal attacks will be punished by a blind date with Gollum at the Mordor Fried Warg Emporium. I highly recommend the Mildewed Troll Innards (a deep, earthy dish, with plenty of flavour), and Boiled Nazgul Backside (light and airy, what it lacks in substance it makes up for in its sharp, stabbing taste that will stay with you long after you've left). 
  • There is no spoiler policy in place. Although we're reading the Hobbit, please feel free to bring in things from other Tolkien works, any of the films, the History of Middle Earth, the Letters of JRR Tolkien, and, if you should like, other literary sources. 
  • There is no such thing as too much geekery. Or taking the text too seriously.  
  • If you have any concerns at any point, I'm the closest thing this gong show has to a mod, so feel free to get in touch. I can be reached either by PM through this site, or directly by email at sigridhr.lokidottir@gmail.com. 
Discussion on this post will officially run from Friday 18th January 2013 to Friday 25th January 2013. However, the post will remain open after that point, so you're more than welcome to continue discussions on. 
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[personal profile] j_quadrifrons 2013-01-18 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
After multiple viewings of the movie, I'm pretty sure that the only thing Thorin recognizes of Azog's insults to him in the tree is his own name and his father's; to be fair, whatever guess he made about the rest of that speech was probably pretty accurate.

(Alternatively, and entirely unsupported by any text but super cool, the Dwarves learned some of the Black Speech during the Dwarf and Goblin Wars, as a military tactic.)

I do love the Orcs in LotR - and I agree, the more they speak the more obvious it is that they're not mindless monsters. There are Orc factions and a certain kind of twisted loyalty.

(Further thoughts on tra-la-la-lally in a separate comment.)
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